Much of my personal philosophy and approach to therapy is rooted within the radical-behavioural tradition, and more recent developments in this area such as RFT. I have enjoyed reading the ACT and FAP literature, and had interesting experiences at one of the ACT workshops. I also integrate these approaches into my clinical work with clients.
With the learning history I have, however, I find it difficult to understand what ‘mindfulness’ IS from a behavioural perspective, how it helps, and what the processes are that underlie it. What am I actually ‘doing’ when I am being ‘mindful’? Since moving away from my early studies in critical psychology (Laing, Psychoanalysis, Rogers etc.) at college, and becoming more of a Skinnerian, I have been suspicious of mentalistic terms, as they (as you will know) suggest internal causes for behaviour, rather than environmental contingencies. For this reason, perhaps, I seem to becoming more sceptical of the term ‘mindfulness’. Descriptions of ‘mindfulness’ within the literature are also unhelpful, such as ‘an altered state of consciousness’, like that actually means anything within itself.
Initially I conceptualised it as a form of attentional training, but then wondered if directing attention away from something unpleasant may actually be increasing avoidance and negative reinforcement (which it undoubtedly does). Then, conversely, I thought of it more as a functional behavioural response (exposure and non-avoidance) to internal verbal behaviour/physical sensations. This makes more sense. Exposure transforms the stimulus functions of the distressing stimuli; associated feelings/thoughts are not taken as literally true, and therefore the behaviour that is contingent upon them changes too. In other words, if I know that my distressing feelings are just feelings, I don’t have to engage in avoidant behaviour to reduce them, and therefore in the long run I become less avoidant.
This explanation makes sense from a behavioural perspective, but when talking to colleagues from other traditions, ‘mindfulness’ takes on a completely different, often spiritual, explanation. This worries me a little (not because they have a different explanation, but that by introducing it into a behavioural science it somehow legitimises a whole bunch of stuff that I am extremely sceptical of, from crystal swinging to astrology, and somehow changes the science of behaviour). A good example of a derived stimulus relation on my part, no doubt.
As soon as mentalistic terms are adopted (as within a good deal of cognitive therapies), the science and theory that underpins the technology is often discarded in favour of technique and approach. This reduces the adaptability of the technology, makes the therapy ‘technique heavy’ and leaves little room for the development of the underlying technology. I feel that behavioural science should be and is different to this (with 100 years of empirical data), but sometimes wonder what the long-term consequences of the rapid introduction of empirically untested techniques will be. I often come across colleagues that are brilliant therapists, but are only successful with certain clients. They find it extremely difficult to synthesise new techniques, because they have a poor knowledge of the underlying technology, and therefore try to bombard clients with the techniques they do have, instead of being adaptable to their clients needs. I am aware, however, that the ACT literature attempts to confront these problems.
So, sorry about the rant. My questions to you guys are:
1) What are you doing when being ‘mindful’?
2) How do you make sense of mindfulness from a behavioural perspective?
3) Is their a danger that overly mentalistic terms will become common place in behavioural science, and therefore reduce its scientific underpinnings?
4) Is it possible that introducing techniques from older (spiritual?) traditions too quickly will hinder the progress of the science as a whole, and transform what it actually is? A kind of ‘guilt by association’?
Answers on a post card…
what are you doing when you are being mindful?
Mindfulness is not a technology. To explain it in terms of behav
ioral analysis would be a category error. Of course you could describe some elements of it that way to incorporate it into a behavior technology, and it would still be useful. It wouldn't actually be mindfulness.
I'm a bit confused...you say you are suspicious of implying internal causes for behavior--but what then is (mental) exposure and (mental) non-avoidance? I agree that this is a workable conceptualization of one aspect of mindfulness.
Diana Marder
I experience therefore I am
As a conceptual psychologist I would see all experience is shaped not simply by language and context but also by prelanguage conceptions that create our perceptions. For example the experence of externality is in reality an experience of internality that is constructed of intentional cognitions about consciousness ie. perceptions can only be internal. To be mindful of perceptions of "thoughts" or "feelings" or metacognitions is a shift in modalities based on the application of conscious awareness. Mindfulness is the development of the application of attentiveness through a range of modalities including complex conceptualisations that can directed intentionally. The development of perceived choice in the directing of our experience of awareness of the desired behavioral response enable a change in the selection of different actions behavioural, conceptual and attentional.
It is the shift from being in the audience at a classical concert to being the conductor and in time composer of our own minds
Mindful of something
is how my teacher describes it. Mindful of my thoughts. Mindful of your feelings. Mindful of the breeze blowing from the ocean tonight.
Mindfulness of something.
But the first part of ACT, as I read it, is Acceptance. I am mindful of my thoughts, rather than being caught up in them. I notice them.
And I accept my thoughts.
Someone said attentiveness, which makes sense but then implied focusing attention away from something, and said that that would be denial. It would. Mindfulness is noticing and accepting my thoughts as thoughts. Accepting the thoughts. I'm not sure about "directing our experience of awareness" or "being the conductor." Perhaps that is advanced. I am an extreme novice here.
Currently I am just noticing and accepting.
What am I doing?
Spoken like a behaviourialist, Dave.
In my opinion, your post seems to focus on what action is being executed and what means of modifying thought (as a behaviour) exists through this method. Further, I suspect that your objection also centres around the notion of mixing disciplines -- namely, philosophy and science/psychology. Even further, your objection seems to be around the notion of combining the past and the present -- the historical views of old cultures and viewpoints with today's advances in science.
As a novice, when I am being mindful, I am actually doing several things. For whatever reason, the 'behaviours' of thinking and speaking have been separated out as two distinct behaviours. However, when I think I do tend to hear the "sound" of my own voice -- the co-exist simulataneously in my view.
I think the contradiction with Eastern philosophies lies in the notion of the self. When I am being mindful I am also aware of myself -- that is to say that I am self-conscious. Other philosophies and schools may call it self-awareness. I am being mindful of what I think and what I say -- internally. Interestingly, what I recall from Freud and Gestalt is that the best solution to 'avoid' self-consciousness is to focus on the other -- or the object of one's attention.
Further, when I am being mindful, I am not controlling my thoughts. Suppression and the potential for repression are then removed.
When I am being mindful, I am speaking internally. When I am calm and relaxed, then I am silent and thinking is absent. I would argue that mindfulness is an act of suppression/repression. When I am remove myself from the content of the thoughts/words and merely observe them, I am disengaged from what exists in the environment and focused on what exist internally. I suspect the desire to speak those words/thoughts is being suppressed.
Just an opinion at this pont....
What am I doing?.......I dont know if I know
I too share Dave’s difficulties with mindfulness from a behavioural perspective and feel that it is easy to get bogged down in the various topographical descriptions that are rooted in a variety of philosophical origins. It seems easy to get confused. The reply above says that through mindfulness “Suppression and the potential for repression are then removed” but later that mindfulness is “an act of suppression/repression.” This seems confusing to me. Are we saying that mindfulness removes the need for suppression and repression through suppression and repression itself? Also, if we disengage from the environmental contingencies eliciting and reinforcing our behaviour, how then are we to engage in effective action?
Maybe part of the problem is that I don’t know, or I am not certain about what it is I am meant to be doing when I am being mindful. Should I be focused on what is going on inside as exposure to ultimately transform the stimulus functions of my own internal stimuli, and is this not ultimately avoidance in its own right, in the sense of mindfulness for the purpose of transformation. Or should I be focused on that is going on outside, in order to promote direct contact with environmental contingencies, to promote effective value driven behaviour. Paradoxically, by doing this am I ultimately avoiding my own feelings again by focusing on something else. Should I do both and if so how or when should I use each one or both together?
To put this into perspective, this morning I was at home working on an academic assignment when I began to get some very uncomfortable palpitations. My Mind told me there could be many reasons for this, too much coffee, too little coffee, too little sleep last night, anxiety over my workload etc. To be honest none of these explanations helped any (nor did I expect that they would). I did not engage in any active avoidance (no deep breathing or rationalisation), I just continued with my work and occasionally noticed and labelled the sensation when I noticed it and did not when I didn’t. It lessened, got worse, lessened, went, came back and lessened again. All the while I was working away with varying degrees of success. Is this mindfulness? If so I am left struggling to comprehend what I was doing above and beyond exposing myself to my own discomfort through non-avoidance. If not, what was I doing?
I’m sure I have probably not answered you questions Dave, and potentially muddied the waters a bit further. But they were just some of my initial thoughts sharing your concerns.
More on mindfulness and behaviour
Thanks Aidan, that is a helpful reply. We seem to both be struggling with conceptualising what mindfulness is, and I know that it could be argued that the reason is to do with verbal behaviour and verbal traps. Maybe we haven’t successfully set up a ‘being mindful’ and ‘not being mindful’ discrimination within ourselves yet, and therefore find it difficult to understand it or to recognise it.
Mindfulness to me seems to somehow suggest a ‘transcendence’ of some form, yet as a behaviourist I would wonder whether we can ever be free of our own learning history, or indeed transcend anything. What am I transcending? If transcendence means not acting upon thoughts/feelings etc., surely I am simply undertaking exposure or some form of response inhibition to these stimuli?
Your description of your palpitations is very much how I think I use mindfulness (whether I do or not). I notice what’s going on, and then engage in some form of behaviour (usually exposure or response inhibition) which generally decreases the distressing state. However, I am sure this is some form of control strategy…although one could argue it is an acceptance strategy. My learning history suggests that my physiological/psychological state is temporary, and that if I attempt to push them away, they increase in frequency. Therefore I ‘know’ that by applying a different behavioural response (such as those mentioned above), I accept the present state…but again this could also be conceptualised as a control strategy. What I’m actually doing is applying another control based repertoire. I guess…?
Mindfulness: topographical descritpion or functional definition?
Thanks Dave,
I’m glad my musings were of some help. You might be onto something in that we have yet to make the discrimination between ‘mindful/not mindful’. I suppose I may need some form of Skinnerian parent figure to tact ‘mindful’ at the appropriate time or to provide reinforcement when I do.
But anyway, I am glad you say that you seem to use ‘mindfulness’ in much the same way as I was today. I’m not sure if what I was doing today was ‘mindfulness’ but I wanted a little bit of time to relax this evening and doing my academic work was my goal for the day to facilitate this. I think I accomplished that with my palpitations coming along for the ride.
My initial understanding of mindfulness is one of ‘being present’ in the moment or having contact with the present moment, and therefore I see it having exposure functions. But by noticing, describing and not reacting to thoughts, am I also using mindfulness as a cognitive diffusion technique? If I do the same for feelings am I using it for self as context? Am I also accepting the present?
Maybe this is one of the reasons I don’t fully get it. I feel that the behaviour we call mindfulness ties into many ACT processes and what we call mindfulness is functionally different dependent upon the context in which it is used or the goal it serves. If this is the case, could it be possible that ‘mindfulness’ is sometimes used as a topographical description of behaviour rather than a functional definition of one?
Maybe a behavioural definition of mindfulness depends on the context in which it is used and it might be better to operationalise it in terms of how it operates in those contexts. In terms of how to do that……I’ll have to think about it.
A.
Mindfulness
There are many things to say about this thread, which is a core question for the whole ACBS / ACT / RFT wing of behavioral psychology.
I've also written a fair amount on these topics so excuse me if I answer a bit by referring to these things
The whole ACT / RFT wing of behavioral psychology begins by opening up to the actual issues being addressed with mentalistic psychological, but then treating them non-mentalistically. Look at the Hayes, 1984 paper on Spirituality; then the Hayes and Brownstein, 1986 paper on mentalism. Both can be downloded here. They plotted the course that became ACT / RFT.
As for what mindfulness is behaviorally speaking, check out Fletcher, L. & Hayes, S. C. (in press). Relational Frame Theory, Acceptance and Commitment Therapy, and a functional analytic definition of mindfulness. Journal of Rational Emotive and Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. It too is here to download.
In general:
I think ACT / RFT is proving that you can have your behavioral cake while mindfully eating it too.
You do have to be well trained philosophically and theoretically, and careful in the language game you are playing. The theoretical work you need to do this includes RFT -- if you do not master that it becomes very difficult to do an adequate job behaviorally of dealing with "mind" IMHO. So for traditional behavioral folk RFT has to be a major focus (again, in my humble opinion).
The bottom line is this: ALL concepts in ACT and RFT MUST be able to be brought back to history and context, must be able to be researched experimentally, must be able to be analyzed using behavioral principles with making theoretical or philosophical errors, and must contribution to prediction and influence with precision, scope, and depth.
I view mindfulness as a middle level term. It is not a technical term -- it is a term that orients you to a domain. As such, it can't be researched directly. But we have RFT and ACT research programs on acceptance, defusion, sense of self and values they are chugging along really nicely. Contact with the present moment is behind, but there too we are working. Mindfulness, or so we argue in that paper, is a term for a collection of these very processes.
When you wonder about introducing all of these non-behavioral terms so quickly, it should be noted that we've been building the base to do this inside behavioral psychology for 25 years. It is quick for the field because the field is just now noticing, or at least, noticing with care. That does NOT mean "anything goes." You'd better be ready to defend any terms you use. So far, I think we are.
So, yes, we need to be careful and quick on our feet. But we need not be afraid. RFT is walking behavioral psychology into a post-Skinnerian era, but it is still behavior analysis. I think the thing to do is to work through these ideas as a group and do it carefully. That is why things like the World Conference are so important. But we need to do it without artificial restrictions. If there is a phenomenon there to be understood, we need to do that ... even if the concept is formally "mentalistic." If we do our job, the ANALYSIS will not be. The logic behind that idea is where ACT and RFT started.
Steven C. Hayes, University of Nevada
Fletcher & Hayes Mindfulness definition
In reference to the article mentioned above: I have not finished reading the paper but I have a few questions.
Page 6 "detect the ongoing process of thinking as distinct from the products of thinking (i.e., thought)."
I want to be clear here. Is it separating "thinking" from "thought" or separating "thinking/thought" from A) action/behavior and B) evaluation/definition of self? I can also see separating the process of thinking from the concluding thought as important. Perhaps this is closer to the intent. I think that A) and B) also fit in here somewhere.
I know I have a lot of reading to catch up on here, and have just stepped in, so I may be able to find your definition of cognitive fusion elsewhere to clarify this. If so, my apologies.
I also think that the idea of inflexibility due to attachment to thoughts has some place here. Not only "I experience this thought therefore I must act" and "I experience this thought therefore I am bad" but "I experience this thought so I will/must/want to/cling to always experiencing this thought at the expense of other thoughts."
Then on Page 8, I am looking to expand "transcendent sense of self" to mean not just defusion of concepts from sense of self, but perhaps also an expanded sense of perspective or infinite optional perspectives. I/Here/Now can be Us/Here/Now or Planet/Here/Now and this perspective enhancement, or transcendance increases my psychological flexibility by letting loose my attachment to a self-centered perspective. I think this fits with the purpose of the definition, but I don't know if you do.
Again on Page 9, this might imply some change in the phrase "as a conscious human being" to an inclusive phrase such as "a perspective or multiple perspectives distinct from the content being perceived."
Or perhaps now I finally go too far.
I also want to compare the definition on Page 9 to the one on Page 11,
but my excitement with this material led me to post some of these things now.
As far as the comparison to Buddhism, I do want to note my opinion that the Buddha was slotted into the "religious" slot perhaps due to a lack of a cultural way to embrace an academic social science community, and that the idolatry and what not that has crept in, as it creeps in to anything that becomes dogmatized over time, is irrelevant to the Buddha's original intentions. He repeatedly stated the need to empirically evaluate and revise his thoughts over time. Due to all of the connotations and confusion regarding Buddhism today, you are undoubtedly aware of the value of maintaining the distance while accepting the overlaps as you are.
I must say that I am tremendously excited to find your work, and feel that nothing could be of more importance.